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Episode 45: Rick Martin, Glenn Anderson and George Hay

20-07-2020

Rick Martin:
NHL: 1971-82; 11 seasons, 9 quality
384G, 317A for 701P, +14 in 685 games
Martin is 11th All Time in GPG (8th All Time at his retirement)
Draft: In his draft class (1971), Martin, drafted 5th overall, is
3rd in Goals
8th in Assists
5th in Points
11th in Plus/Minus
Despite being 9th in Games Played
Era: Of the 160 players to play in at least 500 games between 1971 and 1982, Martin is
5th in Goals
4th in GPG
35th in Assists
43rd in APG
13th in Points and PPG
98th in Plus/Minus
8th in Offensive Point Shares
17th in Point Shares
82-game average: 46G, 38A for 84P, +2
3-year peak (1973-76): 56G, 42A for 98P, +2
No possession stats
Playoffs: 24G, 29A for 53P, -6 in 63 games played
Adjusted:
Hockey Reference:
341G, 285A for 626P
82-game average: 41G, 34A for 74P
Martin is not on any adjusted PG leaderboards (Top 25)
Hockey’s Future VsX:
Not in the Top 25 in Totals or PG
Traded after an injury that turned out to be career-ending for two draft picks.
Glenn Anderson:
NHL: 1980-96; 16 seasons, 14 quality
498G (24th All Time at his retirement), 601A for 1099P, +201 in 1129 GP; 88.1 PS
In his draft class (1979), Anderson is
4th in Goals
7th in Assists
5th in Points
7th in Plus/Minus
6th in Point Shares
8th in Games Played
Era: Of the 32 players to play in at least 1,000 games between 1980 and 1996, Anderson is
8th in Goals
10th in GPG
12th in Assists
16th in APG
11th in Points
14th in PPG
11th in Plus/Minus
14th in Offensive Point Shares
16th in Point Shares
(And 13th out of 20 forwards in terms of Defensive Point Shares…)
82-game average: 36G, 43A for 80P, +15
3-year peak (1981-84): 82-game average of 48G, 60A for 109P, +45
No possession stats
Playoffs: 93G (5th All Time), 121A (10th) for 214P (4th), +63 (7th) in 225 GP (9th)
Adjusted:
Hockey Reference Adjustment:
415G, 503A for 918P
82-game average: 30G, 38A for 67P
Anderson is not on the leaderboards (Top 25) for Adjusted PPG obviously
Hockey’s Future VsX: Not on leaderboards (Top 25)
Trades:
Traded just before turning 31 to Toronto with Grant Fuhr (about to turn 29) and Craig Berube (25) for Vincent Damphousse (23), Peter Ing (22), Scott Thornton (20) and Luke Richardson (22)
Traded at 33 at the trade deadline with a 4th rounder (nobody) for Mike Gartner (34) and Rob Malone
Waived twice.
George Hay:
NHL:
1926-33; 6 seasons, 3 quality by modern stands of PPG
74G, 62A for 136P in 240 Games; 28 PS
Era: Of the 59 players 29 or over to play in at least 82 games between 1926 and 1933 Hay is
3rd in Goals
9th in GPG
4th in Assists
12th in APG
2nd in Points
9th in PPG
2nd in Offensive Point Shares
5th in Point Shares
48-game average: 15G, 12A for 27P
3-year peak (‘27-’30): 44-game average of 18G, 12A for 30P
Playoffs: 2G, 1A for 3P in 8 games
Adjusted: 144G, 293A for 437P
Adjusted 82-game average: 50G, 100A for 149P
Trades:
Traded at 29 with Percy Traub (30) for cash
Bought into the NHL.
WCHL:
1921-26; 5 seasons, all quality
104G (2nd? All Time), 48A (4th?) for 152P (2nd?) in 130 Games
If the qualifier is set at 90 games played (3 seasons) Hay is probably 2nd All Time in GPG, 5th All Time in APG and 3rd All time in PPG for the WCHL
30-game average: 24G, 11A for 35P
Didn’t bother to calculate a 3 year peak
Playoffs: 2G, 2A for 4P in 10 Games

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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