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Episode 48: Bobby Smith, Ron Francis and Carson Cooper

28-08-2020

Bobby Smith:
1978-93; 15 seasons, 13 quality
357G, 679A for 1036P, -8 in 1077 games; 75.1 PS
Draft: Smith was drafted 1st overall in 1978; in his draft class he’s
1st in Goals
1st in Assists
1st in Points
58th in Plus/Minus
3rd in Games
1st in Point Shares
Era: Of the 21 players to play in at least 984 games (12 seasons) between 1978 and 1993, Smith is
7th in Goals
8th in GPG
5th in Assists and APG
7th in Points
8th in PPG
17th (5th last) in Plus/Minus
8th in Offensive Point Shares
15th (7th forward) in Defensive Point Shares
12th in Point Shares
82-game average: 27G, 52A for 79P, -1
3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average of 36G, 70A for 106P, +10
No possession stats
Playoffs:
64G (23rd All Time, 12th at his retirement),
96A (10th All time at his retirement) for
160P (22nd All Time, 10th at his retirement),
-17 in
184 games (5th All Time at his retirement)
Adjusted:
Hockey Reference:
285G, 554A for 839P
82-game average: 22G, 42A for 64P
Ron Francis:
1981-2004; 23 seasons, all quality
549G (19th All Time at his retirement), 1249A (2nd All time) for 1798P (5th, 4th at his retirement), -18 in 1731 Games (4th, 3rd at retirement); 149.3 PS; 20:06* ATOI (last 6 seasons)
Francis is 16th All Time in APG (actually 18th at his retirement)
Francis was 19th All Time in Point Shares at his retirement
Francis is 16th All time in Offensive Point Shares (12th at his retirement)
Draft: Francis was drafted 4th overall in 1981, in his draft class he is:
1st in Goals
1st in Assists (duh)
1st in Points
80th in Plus/Minus
4th in Point Shares
1st in Games Played
Era: Of the 6 players to play in at least 1,476 games (18 seasons) between 1981 and 2004, Francis is
3rd in Goals and GPG
1st in Assists and APG
1st in Points
2nd in PPG
5th (2nd last) in Plus/Minus
2nd in Offensive Point Shares
4th in Defensive Point Shares (1st forward)
5th (2nd last) in Point Shares
82-game average: 26G, 59A for 85P, -1
3-year peak (1993-96): 82-game average of 25G, 84A for 110P, +21
No possession numbers
Playoffs: 46G, 97A (20th All Time at his retirement) for 143P, +28
Adjusted:
Hockey-Reference:
518G
1193A (4th All Time)
1711P (5th All Time)
82-game average of 25G, 57A for 81P
Carson Cooper:
1924-32; 8 seasons, 6 quality by modern stands of PPG
Totals:
110G (14th All Time at his retirement),
62A (19th All Time at his retirement) for
172P (17th All Time at his retirement) in
295 games (17th All Time at his retirement);
38.3 PS (16th All Time at his retirement)
Per Game:
If the qualifier is set to 100 goals (19 players), Cooper was 13th All Time in GPG at his retirement
If the qualifier is set to 50 assists (36 players), Cooper was 19th All Time in APG at his retirement
If the qualifier is set to 150 points (22 players), Cooper was 17th All Time in PPG at his retirement
Cooper was 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement
Era: Of the 23 players players who played in at least 288 games (6 contemporary seasons) between 1924 and 1932, Cooper is
10th in Goals
8th in GPG
13th in Assists
12th in APG
13th in Points
8th in PPG
8th in Offensive Point Shares
12th in Point Shares
48-game average: 18G, 10A for 28P
3-year peak (1924-27): 44-game average of 23G, 9A for 32P
No possession stats
Playoffs: 0P in 7 games
Adjusted:
Hockey-Reference:
211G, 256A for 467P
82-game average: 59G, 71A for 130P

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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